The website House of Names says that Briggs is an English surname derived from the Old Norse word “bryggja”, the Northern English word for bridge.
It was first found in Wakefield, Yorkshire about the year 1275. Within a century it had branched into Cumberland and further north to Aberdeenshire in Scotland. They flourished in the north, and some Briggs moved to Ireland.
A slightly different story is told at The Internet Surname Database:
“This interesting name is a variant of the more common name Bridges, which…has two possible origins, one the …English topographical or occupational one, and the other locational, from Belgium.
“The modern surname Bridges, Brydges or Briggs usually derives from the early medieval English topographical surname for someone who lived near a bridge, or from a metonymic occupational name for a bridge keeper; building and maintaining bridges was one of the three main feudal obligations in the Middle Ages, the others being the bearing of arms when required and the maintenance of fortifications.
“The derivation for this source is from the Middle English "brigge", from the Olde English pre 7th Century "brycg", bridge. The first recording of the surname from this source is that of Gilbert atte Brigge, in the 1272 Pipe Rolls of Surrey, and the "s" of the variant forms Bridges, Brydges and Briggs indicates the genitive case, meaning "of the bridge".
Secondly, these surnames can be locational, from the Flemish city of Bruges, meaning "bridges", which had important trading links with England in the Middle Ages.”
John and Joseph Briggs
The Convict Indents show that John and Joseph Briggs were brothers. Their native place is given as Hertfordshire, although that may be based on where they were resident, and convicted, rather than their place of birth.
Some family historians have given John Briggs’ birthplace as Ireland, but there is no proof. It is possible that they travelled to England looking for work, but we don’t know.
There is one piece of evidence which points to an Irish birth. An item on the St Mary's and District Historical Society website says that Andrew Thompson, who married John Briggs and Bridget Dowd’s daughter, Lydia, says that Thompson began his first tannery at St Mary’s with the help of an Irishman named John Briggs. In fact it must have been Andrew's father, Samuel Thompson. Andrew was born in 1852, the same year that John Briggs died.
The Blayney Shire Local and Family History Group says that Joseph Briggs, Convict, was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth Briggs, born in 1812 in Haslingden, Lancashire. The claim is unsubstantiated in the documents we have. The year 1812 is too early. That would have made him 24 at conviction, which no other record supports. No record thus far explored has found any Joseph Briggs born to Thomas and Elizabeth (or Eliza or Betty) in the correct time frame.
Records show brothers John and Joseph born to Robert and Betty (nee Heys) Briggs. Robert, a weaver, of Blackburn Parish, Lancashire and Betty, also of Blackburn, were married on 7 Dec 1817 in Blackburn. John was born 16 June 1818, and baptised 10 August 1818 in Blackburn. Joseph was baptised 5 Sep 1819 at Middleton, Lancashire. This would have made them approx 19 and 18 at time of transportation, which is what the convict indent says. This family seems the most likely. It would be unusual, however, for a weaver’s sons to turn to agricultural labour at a time when the Industrial Revolution was attracting people to the cities and, in the north, the cloth industry. Lancashire, especially the area around Manchester was the epicentre of the textile industry, with it having moved from being a cottage industry to factory-based.
Subsequent censuses (1841, 1851) contain numerous families named Briggs - with first names like Betty, Thomas, Robert, John, Joseph etc etc. (John and Joseph were gone by then, so families with children of those names can be discounted). But there is no Robert and Betty in the same household of the approximately correct age. Of course one or both could have died between the transportation of the brothers and the census. Most Briggs lived in the counties of Lancashire and Yorkshire, although there are others further south.
Trial and Conviction
On 27 June, 1836, three agricultural labourers - brothers, John and Joseph Briggs, and their neighbour Joseph Pickett, stood in the dock at at the Hertford Quarter Sessions, charged with sheep-stealing. Pickett was aged about 40 and married, his younger neighbours John and Joseph 19 and 18 respectively, both single.
John Briggs was the shortest of the three men, at 5 ft 3 inches, Joseph a little taller at 5ft 4 and 3/4 inches. Both had a ruddy and freckled complexion, brown hair (although Joseph’s light brown hair was mixed with grey. Both had hazel eyes, Joseph’s being described as small.
John’s eye brows met, and his chin declined. He had a small scar on the knuckle of his middle finger of his right hand, and another on the back of his thumb.
Joseph’s eyebrows also met, he had a mole on the lower part of the right side of his neck, a long scar at the back of his left hand, and scars on the back of his forefinger and the thumb of his left hand.
“Joseph Pickett, Joseph Briggs and John Briggs, labourers, stood indicted with feloniously taking and driving away a sheep, the property of William Enever, at the Parish of Westmill, on the 24th of April last.
William Owen, bailiff Of Mr. Wm. Enever of Westmill Parish. —-On the morning of the 23rd April I counted the sheep in the field and found them all right. On the morning of the 24th I missed one; I went afterwards before a Magistrate and saw a skin there; this is the skin produced; I know it by the E upon it.
James Bush. ——I am a constable; know the prisoners at the bar; Joseph and John Briggs live together; I went to Pickett’s cottage and saw the well near his premises; the Briggs’s live next door to Pickett; I found two sheep-skins in the well; I compared the skin with a head found in Pickett’s house, concealed in a drawer; saw other pieces of mutton in a pie; I also saw the leg of a sheep in the hedge on the Monday.
Cross-examined.——— I put the skin into the bailiff’s hands; I washed the skin with my own hands; one of the men in the workhouse assisted me to wash the skin; I think Rolfe was the name of the person who had assisted me washing it; I afterwards locked it up in a shed of mine; the shed stands in the yard. I noticed the mark of an E upon the skin; the skin hung in my shed two days; Mr Enever claimed it; I found some sheep-skins in the well of Hampton, who is the landlord of the premises occupied by the prisoners at the bar.
Mr Wortham, Buntingford.——I am Clerk to the Magistrates; was present at the examination of the prisoners; I took down their statement; no threat was held out to them.
James Bush recalled.—-Nothing passed between prisoners and myself on going to prison otherwise than having some beer; I promised them sixpence to get beer when they got to gaol; did not ask them to confess. The confession of Pickett was here put in and read, whcih fully acknowledged the theft.
The confession of Joseph Briggs was also put, which spoke to the division of the sheep. John Briggs’s confession was in substance the same as the two former. The Jury returned a verdict of Guilty against all the prisoners.
—-Transportation for life. “ (The County Press)
The Briggs men were agricultural labourers, possibly working on the land owned by William Enever, from whom the sheep was allegedly stolen. Whether they came under the influence of their older neighbour, or were acting with their own agency is unknown.
William Enever was a local landholder, aged 38 at the time (christened 2 Sep 1798 in Ridge, Hertfordshire). He had married Judith who died in 1811. His second marriage was in 1818 was to “Miss Cooper of The Bell Inn, Buntingford.” (Colburn’s New Monthly Magazine, Vol 9). At the time he was living at Wadbarns near Westmill. A National Trust registered monument, actually a tomb - the ‘Enever Monument’ - exists in the churchyard of St Mary’s,Westmill. It is to Judith Enever d. 1811, William Enever d.1838, and his second wife.
Convict indents:
Transportation and life in NSW
John and Joseph left from Torbay (near Torquay in Devon) aboard the Prince George on 20 December 1836, and arrived in Port Jackson on 14 Jan 1837. Two hundred and forty four male prisoners were aboard. Six died on the voyage. It also brought a detachment of 29 rank and file of the 80th regiment, eight women and three children.
Briggs would most likely have been assigned as a ‘government servant’ to a landholder, working as an agricultural labourer.
The older man was about 5 ft 7 and a half inches tall with a dark ruddy complexion, brown hair and hazel eyes. He was missing an upper left front tooth, possessed a large nose and had a horizontal scar in the centre of his forehead, with a small mole on his right cheek and another on the left of his neck.
John Briggs was the shortest of the three men, at 5 ft 3 inches, Joseph a little taller at 5ft 4 and 3/4 inches. Both had a ruddy and freckled complexion, brown hair (although Joseph’s light brown hair was mixed with grey. Both had hazel eyes, Joseph’s being described as small.
John’s eye brows met, and his chin declined. He had a small scar on the knuckle of his middle finger of his right hand, and another on the back of his thumb.
Joseph’s eyebrows also met, he had a mole on the lower part of the right side of his neck, a long scar at the back of his left hand, and scars on the back of his forefinger and the thumb of his left hand.
Report of the Trial (The County Press 2 July 1836, page 4)
“Joseph Pickett, Joseph Briggs and John Briggs, labourers, stood indicted with feloniously taking and driving away a sheep, the property of William Enever, at the Parish of Westmill, on the 24th of April last.William Owen, bailiff Of Mr. Wm. Enever of Westmill Parish. —-On the morning of the 23rd April I counted the sheep in the field and found them all right. On the morning of the 24th I missed one; I went afterwards before a Magistrate and saw a skin there; this is the skin produced; I know it by the E upon it.
James Bush. ——I am a constable; know the prisoners at the bar; Joseph and John Briggs live together; I went to Pickett’s cottage and saw the well near his premises; the Briggs’s live next door to Pickett; I found two sheep-skins in the well; I compared the skin with a head found in Pickett’s house, concealed in a drawer; saw other pieces of mutton in a pie; I also saw the leg of a sheep in the hedge on the Monday.
Cross-examined.——— I put the skin into the bailiff’s hands; I washed the skin with my own hands; one of the men in the workhouse assisted me to wash the skin; I think Rolfe was the name of the person who had assisted me washing it; I afterwards locked it up in a shed of mine; the shed stands in the yard. I noticed the mark of an E upon the skin; the skin hung in my shed two days; Mr Enever claimed it; I found some sheep-skins in the well of Hampton, who is the landlord of the premises occupied by the prisoners at the bar.
Mr Wortham, Buntingford.——I am Clerk to the Magistrates; was present at the examination of the prisoners; I took down their statement; no threat was held out to them.
James Bush recalled.—-Nothing passed between prisoners and myself on going to prison otherwise than having some beer; I promised them sixpence to get beer when they got to gaol; did not ask them to confess. The confession of Pickett was here put in and read, whcih fully acknowledged the theft.
The confession of Joseph Briggs was also put, which spoke to the division of the sheep. John Briggs’s confession was in substance the same as the two former. The Jury returned a verdict of Guilty against all the prisoners.
—-Transportation for life. “ (The County Press)
The Briggs men were agricultural labourers, possibly working on the land owned by William Enever, from whom the sheep was allegedly stolen. Whether they came under the influence of their older neighbour, or were acting with their own agency is unknown.
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| St Mary's Westmill. Photo attribution |
Convict indents:
Transportation and life in NSW
John and Joseph left from Torbay (near Torquay in Devon) aboard the Prince George on 20 December 1836, and arrived in Port Jackson on 14 Jan 1837. Two hundred and forty four male prisoners were aboard. Six died on the voyage. It also brought a detachment of 29 rank and file of the 80th regiment, eight women and three children.
Briggs would most likely have been assigned as a ‘government servant’ to a landholder, working as an agricultural labourer.
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| Sydney Harbour with Goat Island 1837. Robert Russell, National Lib of Australia |
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| Sydney from Woolloomooloo c 1837. Robert Russell. national Lib of Australia |
Ticket-of-leave
John was granted a Ticket of Leave in April 1845. He was allowed to stay in the district of Mudgee, which implies that he was already in the area.
A Ticket of Leave meant that the convict was free to work and live within a nominated district before their sentence had expired or they were pardoned. They could hire themselves out or be self-employed, rather than assigned by the government. They could also acquire property. Church attendance was compulsory.
In order to be eligible, a convict like John Briggs, transported for life, must have worked eight years with one master, or ten years with two, or twelve years with three.
As John was granted his ToL eight years after arrival, he must have worked for one master since 1837, indicating that he had been assigned to the Mudgee area on or shortly after arrival.
His 'Master' was named as 'Holton'.
Marriage of John and Bridget
On 30 August 1847, permission was granted John Briggs, age 31 to be married to a 20 year old immigrant, Elizabeth (sic) Dowd by Rev James Gunther of Mudgee. The actual record of marriage states her name as Bridget Dowd.
The wedding was celebrated at St John the Baptist, Mudgee on 15 September 1847. Consent had been acquired from The Governor, and the Guardian of the woman (unspecified, but perhaps her brother?)
Witnesses to the marriage were John Cummings and Honorah Hudson, both of Mudgee.
Rev Gunthier was licensed by Bishop of Sydney, in 1837. He was sent to an Aboriginal mission in Wellington and from there serviced the Mudgee church. The Parish of Mudgee was founded in 1841, and a church built that year. Rev Gunther became the first resident minister in 1843.
Residence 1850
The 1850 Ticket of leave Muster Roll lists John Briggs as being in the employ of George Bassett at Dabee. It is uncertain whether that is the actual station or the general area of Rylstone, previously known as Dabee.
Conditional pardon 1850
A pardon freed a convict on the condition that they did not return to England or Ireland. Original copies were sent to England and duplicates remained in Australia. A copy was also given to the convict as proof of pardon.
John Briggs' pardon was signed on 10 July 1850.
His Master named on the pardon was again Holton.
John and Bridget’s children
Two children are registered as having been born to John and Bridget.
Edward was born on 5 February 1849 and baptised on 14 March that year in the Catholic Parish of St Mathew at Windsor. The parents’ abode was Mudgee. The ceremony was performed by Rev John Grant, Roman Catholic.
John was an Anglican, but his wife was Catholic, and the child was baptised into the Catholic church.
Lydia Anne was born 25 December 1852; her birth was registered in Wellington; that does not necessarily mean she was born in Wellington.
Both Edward and Lydia’s stories are taken up in a later chapter.
John’s death
John’s death is recorded in Elizabeth Nevell's Dead Book cited by the Rylstone District Historical Society. Mrs Nevell was responsible for keeping the records of people who died in the Carwell District.
It was recorded as 15 Dec 1852, in the Carwell District (Rylstone). He was 35 years old. The manner and cause of his death is unknown. [Source: Rylstone District Historical Society].
Daughter Lydia was born ten days after her father's death, and went to live with an aunt while very young. John's wife Bridget re-partnered with William Gore. Their story is told in the entry on Bridget.
Meanwhile, over in Carcoar….Joseph Briggs and family.
John’s brother, Joseph, also received a Ticket of Leave, dated 7 June 1845 (although it had been signed in February that year). He was allowed to remain in the Carcoar area. Permission to marry Sarah Radburn, a free immigrant, was granted on 24 January 1846. There does not appear to be a record of Sarah’s arrival. She seems to have been baptised on 14 Jan 1827 in Inkpen, Berkshire, England. Sarah Briggs (nee Radburn) died in Blayney in 1905. Her parents’ names are given as Thomas and Harriett in the index of deaths.
Prior to their marriage, a birth was recorded of a daughter named Elizabeth Jane Selina (no 2173 Vol 30A). She was born on 16 July 1844, and baptised on 7 December 1845 at Carcoar, by T.B. Naylor of the Church of England. There is no record of death under this name in NSW. Of course she could have gone interstate, or married and died under a different name, but so far no record has emerged.
Elizabeth’s 1845 baptism certificate says that Joseph and Sarah’s abode was at Kings Plains (later Blayney), and that Joseph was a labourer.
Joseph and Sarah married on 6 March 1846, in Carcoar. The ceremony was a Church of England one, performed bt T.Beazly Naylor and witnessed by Charles Spinks of Carcoar.
A second child, Joseph, born 27 December 1850 was baptised on 9 February 1951 in the Parish of Newcastle. Their abode was Carcoar, and Joseph’s ‘quality or profession’ was given as Settler. This baptism was done by a Presbyterian Minister. Joseph died in 1920, aged 69 and is buried at Carcoar.
Babies Selina and Serina
On 22 March 1864, a baby named Selina Briggs died at Evans Swamp (which is in the Carcoar area), aged 4 months. The name and occupation of both the father and mother of the child was “unknown”, but Joseph Briggs of Evans Swamp was named as “adopted father” and the informant of the death. The child had been born at Lachlan River. [Carcoar is on the Belubula River, a tributary of the Lachlan River]. Perhaps that baby had been daughter Elizabeth’s? Perhaps Elizabeth died at that time?
Three years later, Joseph Jnr and Charlotte Piper had a child, named Serina (or Selina), born 2 July 1867 at Evans Swamp, Carcoar (Registration 8205/1867). Both Joseph’s and Charlotte’s stated age was 16 on the birth certificate of their daughter Serina. A witness to the birth was named as Ann Piper - presumably Charlotte’s mother. The baptism of this child took place on 17 February 1870 (Reg 5194/1870). On the baptism record her name is given as Selina.
Joseph Briggs Jnr married Charlotte Piper on 11 Sep 1869 at the Registrars office in Carcoar. He was 18. Joseph and Charlotte lived at Evans Swamp, Carcoar. Joseph’s father Joseph, and William Piper, presumably Charlotte’s father, were witnesses to the marriage.
Joseph Senior died on 19 April 1877 aged 61 years at Evans Swap (Registration 4592/1877). Cause of death was paralysis, from which he had suffered for 2 months. Son Joseph was the informant. Joseph was buried at Evans Swamp by the Catholic priest. At his time of death he had 1 living child (male), indicating that daughter Elizabeth was dead by that time.
Joseph Jnr and Charlotte had the following children, all born at Carcoar :
1867 Serina (aka Selina). Selina married David Martin (died 21 March 1916, Wellington) at Carcoar in 1884, and died 14 January 1939 in Wellington, NSW. She and David had children Alfred Thomas (1890-1946), Walter W (1892-1893), Selina J (1892-1893) and Selina (1895-1950)
Selina later married John Henry Charles Jones. He was still married and was charged with bigamy.
An article in the Sydney Morning Herald on 23 July 1928 reported that Selina Martin was the subject of a theft. She was operating a small general store at Mookerawa, near Stuart Town, Wellington.
1869 Christopher. Born 1869 Carcoar, died 1930 Wellington. Married Martha Jane Hill in Carcoar in 1897. Children William H (born 1899), Walter Valentine (born 1905)
1871 Phoebe. Born 1871 at Carcoar, died 1903 at Port Pirie, South Australia. Married John William Gibson (1861-1910) in 1890 at Sydney.
1873 Joseph. Born 1873 at Carcoar, died 21 May 1954 at Blayney. Married Eva Mildred Paine in 1907. Children Cecil Howard, born 1907 Mudgee, died 4 September 1986, Blayney; Clifford Milton, born 1909 Mudgee, died 7 June 1937, buried at Carcoar.
1874 William. Born 1874, died 1876 at Carcoar.
1876 Charlotte. Born 1876.
1880 Edward. Born 1880
1882 Abraham. Born1882, died 1884
1885 Mark. Born 1885, died 1951
1886 Albert. Born 1886, died 1974
1889 Alfred. Born 1889
John was granted a Ticket of Leave in April 1845. He was allowed to stay in the district of Mudgee, which implies that he was already in the area.
A Ticket of Leave meant that the convict was free to work and live within a nominated district before their sentence had expired or they were pardoned. They could hire themselves out or be self-employed, rather than assigned by the government. They could also acquire property. Church attendance was compulsory.
In order to be eligible, a convict like John Briggs, transported for life, must have worked eight years with one master, or ten years with two, or twelve years with three.
As John was granted his ToL eight years after arrival, he must have worked for one master since 1837, indicating that he had been assigned to the Mudgee area on or shortly after arrival.
His 'Master' was named as 'Holton'.
Marriage of John and Bridget
On 30 August 1847, permission was granted John Briggs, age 31 to be married to a 20 year old immigrant, Elizabeth (sic) Dowd by Rev James Gunther of Mudgee. The actual record of marriage states her name as Bridget Dowd.
The wedding was celebrated at St John the Baptist, Mudgee on 15 September 1847. Consent had been acquired from The Governor, and the Guardian of the woman (unspecified, but perhaps her brother?)
Witnesses to the marriage were John Cummings and Honorah Hudson, both of Mudgee.
Rev Gunthier was licensed by Bishop of Sydney, in 1837. He was sent to an Aboriginal mission in Wellington and from there serviced the Mudgee church. The Parish of Mudgee was founded in 1841, and a church built that year. Rev Gunther became the first resident minister in 1843.
Residence 1850
The 1850 Ticket of leave Muster Roll lists John Briggs as being in the employ of George Bassett at Dabee. It is uncertain whether that is the actual station or the general area of Rylstone, previously known as Dabee.
Conditional pardon 1850
A pardon freed a convict on the condition that they did not return to England or Ireland. Original copies were sent to England and duplicates remained in Australia. A copy was also given to the convict as proof of pardon.
John Briggs' pardon was signed on 10 July 1850.
His Master named on the pardon was again Holton.
John and Bridget’s children
Two children are registered as having been born to John and Bridget.
Edward was born on 5 February 1849 and baptised on 14 March that year in the Catholic Parish of St Mathew at Windsor. The parents’ abode was Mudgee. The ceremony was performed by Rev John Grant, Roman Catholic.
John was an Anglican, but his wife was Catholic, and the child was baptised into the Catholic church.
Lydia Anne was born 25 December 1852; her birth was registered in Wellington; that does not necessarily mean she was born in Wellington.
Both Edward and Lydia’s stories are taken up in a later chapter.
John’s death
John’s death is recorded in Elizabeth Nevell's Dead Book cited by the Rylstone District Historical Society. Mrs Nevell was responsible for keeping the records of people who died in the Carwell District.
It was recorded as 15 Dec 1852, in the Carwell District (Rylstone). He was 35 years old. The manner and cause of his death is unknown. [Source: Rylstone District Historical Society].
Daughter Lydia was born ten days after her father's death, and went to live with an aunt while very young. John's wife Bridget re-partnered with William Gore. Their story is told in the entry on Bridget.
Meanwhile, over in Carcoar….Joseph Briggs and family.
John’s brother, Joseph, also received a Ticket of Leave, dated 7 June 1845 (although it had been signed in February that year). He was allowed to remain in the Carcoar area. Permission to marry Sarah Radburn, a free immigrant, was granted on 24 January 1846. There does not appear to be a record of Sarah’s arrival. She seems to have been baptised on 14 Jan 1827 in Inkpen, Berkshire, England. Sarah Briggs (nee Radburn) died in Blayney in 1905. Her parents’ names are given as Thomas and Harriett in the index of deaths.
Prior to their marriage, a birth was recorded of a daughter named Elizabeth Jane Selina (no 2173 Vol 30A). She was born on 16 July 1844, and baptised on 7 December 1845 at Carcoar, by T.B. Naylor of the Church of England. There is no record of death under this name in NSW. Of course she could have gone interstate, or married and died under a different name, but so far no record has emerged.
Elizabeth’s 1845 baptism certificate says that Joseph and Sarah’s abode was at Kings Plains (later Blayney), and that Joseph was a labourer.
Joseph and Sarah married on 6 March 1846, in Carcoar. The ceremony was a Church of England one, performed bt T.Beazly Naylor and witnessed by Charles Spinks of Carcoar.
A second child, Joseph, born 27 December 1850 was baptised on 9 February 1951 in the Parish of Newcastle. Their abode was Carcoar, and Joseph’s ‘quality or profession’ was given as Settler. This baptism was done by a Presbyterian Minister. Joseph died in 1920, aged 69 and is buried at Carcoar.Babies Selina and Serina
On 22 March 1864, a baby named Selina Briggs died at Evans Swamp (which is in the Carcoar area), aged 4 months. The name and occupation of both the father and mother of the child was “unknown”, but Joseph Briggs of Evans Swamp was named as “adopted father” and the informant of the death. The child had been born at Lachlan River. [Carcoar is on the Belubula River, a tributary of the Lachlan River]. Perhaps that baby had been daughter Elizabeth’s? Perhaps Elizabeth died at that time?
Three years later, Joseph Jnr and Charlotte Piper had a child, named Serina (or Selina), born 2 July 1867 at Evans Swamp, Carcoar (Registration 8205/1867). Both Joseph’s and Charlotte’s stated age was 16 on the birth certificate of their daughter Serina. A witness to the birth was named as Ann Piper - presumably Charlotte’s mother. The baptism of this child took place on 17 February 1870 (Reg 5194/1870). On the baptism record her name is given as Selina.
Joseph Briggs Jnr married Charlotte Piper on 11 Sep 1869 at the Registrars office in Carcoar. He was 18. Joseph and Charlotte lived at Evans Swamp, Carcoar. Joseph’s father Joseph, and William Piper, presumably Charlotte’s father, were witnesses to the marriage.
Joseph Senior died on 19 April 1877 aged 61 years at Evans Swap (Registration 4592/1877). Cause of death was paralysis, from which he had suffered for 2 months. Son Joseph was the informant. Joseph was buried at Evans Swamp by the Catholic priest. At his time of death he had 1 living child (male), indicating that daughter Elizabeth was dead by that time.
Joseph Jnr and Charlotte had the following children, all born at Carcoar :
1867 Serina (aka Selina). Selina married David Martin (died 21 March 1916, Wellington) at Carcoar in 1884, and died 14 January 1939 in Wellington, NSW. She and David had children Alfred Thomas (1890-1946), Walter W (1892-1893), Selina J (1892-1893) and Selina (1895-1950)
Selina later married John Henry Charles Jones. He was still married and was charged with bigamy.
An article in the Sydney Morning Herald on 23 July 1928 reported that Selina Martin was the subject of a theft. She was operating a small general store at Mookerawa, near Stuart Town, Wellington.
1869 Christopher. Born 1869 Carcoar, died 1930 Wellington. Married Martha Jane Hill in Carcoar in 1897. Children William H (born 1899), Walter Valentine (born 1905)
1871 Phoebe. Born 1871 at Carcoar, died 1903 at Port Pirie, South Australia. Married John William Gibson (1861-1910) in 1890 at Sydney.
1873 Joseph. Born 1873 at Carcoar, died 21 May 1954 at Blayney. Married Eva Mildred Paine in 1907. Children Cecil Howard, born 1907 Mudgee, died 4 September 1986, Blayney; Clifford Milton, born 1909 Mudgee, died 7 June 1937, buried at Carcoar.
1874 William. Born 1874, died 1876 at Carcoar.
1876 Charlotte. Born 1876.
1880 Edward. Born 1880
1882 Abraham. Born1882, died 1884
1885 Mark. Born 1885, died 1951
1886 Albert. Born 1886, died 1974
1889 Alfred. Born 1889
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