Barony Parish has long been absorbed into Glasgow, but In the past it represented lands which were to the north of the city and which were more rural, including Shettleston, where the family was living at the 1851 Census, taken on 30 March that year.
I can find no trace of the family in the 1841 Census, either in Scotland or England. There are no census details for Ireland. It is possible that the family were living in different places if James had to be away for work. There are several James Youngs in various places throughout Lanarkshire and there is no knowing if any of them is our James Young.
James’ parents were Robert Young, a lint miller, and Margaret née Darnley - 4th great grandparents.
James was born on 8 September 1812, and baptised on 4 October 1812, to Robert Young and Margaret Darnley. The Old Parish Register Birth 651 / 20 501 Airdrie or New Monkton, page 501 of 580 states:
YOUNG “James Young, lawful son of Robert Young farmer in Grayrigg & Margaret Darnley was born the 8th September and baptised the 4th October 1812.”
Robert and Margaret had the following children, all registered in Airdrie / New Monkland Parish, Lanarkshire, except the youngest, who was registered in Shotts (about 14 kms from Aidrie):
Their four children listed in Scotland’s People were:
The Old Barony Church was built as a part of the Barony Parish in Glasgow by architect James Adams. It opened in 1799 and served ceremonial and other congregational purposes. The replacement for the old building was designed by J.J. Burnet & J.A. Campbell and raised in 1889, and incorporated architectural artifacts from the old church and a number of other relics.
Sarah and her parents all came to Australia, but I cannot find a record for them. Previously one family historian has been recorded that Sarah arrived on the Cyclone on 26 March 1857. However, there were two Sarah Youngs on that journey, one aged 40 and given as the mother of the other 20 year old Sarah, and there was no James and no Hannah. It is conceivable that James arrived separately - sometimes men travelled out and then sent for their wives and children. As well, Hannah’s name could be misrecorded, in which case this could be a record of Hannah and Sarah's arrival.
Sarah was James and Hannah’s only child. She is the only child mentioned on her father’s and mother’s death certificates. James’s will provided for his wife and grandchildren.
The Youngs in Australia
Not a lot is known about the Youngs’ movements in Australia. We know the following from official records:
approx 1852 Hannah arrived (source DC) - questionable
approx 1856-7 James arrived (source: DC)
approx 1856-7 Sarah arrived (source DC)
1858 April 13 - Sarah married John Grieve, a bachelor, aged 28, at 99 Queensbury St, North Melbourne Both were residing in Elizabeth St, Melbourne at the time of their marriage. It is probable that they travelled to Melbourne for the wedding.
The officiating minister was George Reed, who had an interesting history. He arrived in Melbourne in 1857 and set up the North Melbourne Presbyterian Church. He later became a politician in Queensland, before moving to New Zealand. His latter life was spent as a newspaper leader writer and columnist in both New Zealand and Melbourne. More can be read about his here: https://teara.govt.nz/en/biographies/2r8/reed-george-mccullagh
Sarah’s usual residence at her marriage was Yan Yean, John’s Cape Shank (sic) - Cape Schanck.
Yan Yean is a rural area, about 40 kms north of the centre of Melbourne. The first post office opened there on 1 March 1859. Today it is on the rural/urban fringe of Melbourne, with encroaching development. It is the site of Victoria’s first reservoir.
Cape Schanck is the southernmost tip of the Mornington Peninsula which separates the ocean waters of Bass Strait from the calmer waters of Western Port Bay. In 1857-1859 a lighthouse was built there from locally quarried limestone.
The Indigenous people of the area are the Yorta Yorta.
I can find no trace of the family in the 1841 Census, either in Scotland or England. There are no census details for Ireland. It is possible that the family were living in different places if James had to be away for work. There are several James Youngs in various places throughout Lanarkshire and there is no knowing if any of them is our James Young.
James’s origins
James’ parents were Robert Young, a lint miller, and Margaret née Darnley - 4th great grandparents.
James was born on 8 September 1812, and baptised on 4 October 1812, to Robert Young and Margaret Darnley. The Old Parish Register Birth 651 / 20 501 Airdrie or New Monkton, page 501 of 580 states:
YOUNG “James Young, lawful son of Robert Young farmer in Grayrigg & Margaret Darnley was born the 8th September and baptised the 4th October 1812.”
Robert and Margaret had the following children, all registered in Airdrie / New Monkland Parish, Lanarkshire, except the youngest, who was registered in Shotts (about 14 kms from Aidrie):
- George, born 23 Dec 1798
- Andrew, born 6 June 1802
- Robert, born 1 July 1804
- Alexander, born 23 Nov 1806
- John, born 26 March 1809
- Margaret, born 30 June 1811
- James, born 4 Oct 1812 - 3rd great grandfather
- William, born 24 Sep 1815
- Samuel, born 22 Feb 1818
- Thomas, born 17 Dec 1820
Their four children listed in Scotland’s People were:
- Robert, born 17 Feb 1765 in Airdrie / New Monkland - 4th great grandfather
- Agnes, born 30 July 1767 in Airdrie / New Monkland
- Marion, born 7 July 1761 in Airdrie / New Monkland
- Mary, born 3 July 1770 in Airdrie / New Monkland
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| Map of Lanark Shire showing Parishes including Barony, New Monkland, Old Monkland. |
Airdrie / New Monkland - home area of the Youngs
Airdrie is a town in North Lanarkshire approximately 12 miles (19 km) east of Glasgow city centre. It is in the territory formerly known as the Monklands district. In In 1641 the parish was divided between:
Under the patronage of King King Malcolm IV of Scotland Cistercian monks established an abbey at Melrose in 1136. Five years later a daughter house was founded at Newbattle Abbey in Lothian. In 1160 Malcolm granted to the monks of Newbattle lands in central Scotland which became known as the "Munklands" (Register of the Great Seal 1323).
The monks were farmers and also expert in the construction of roads. In the 12th century, they established the original Glasgow to Edinburgh road via Airdrie and Bathgate. to link up with their lands in Newbattle in East Lothian.
Airdrie really came to prominence through its weaving industry. Airdrie Weavers Society was founded in 1781 and flax (for linen) was being grown in sixteen farms in and around the burgh. In the last decade of the eighteenth century, coal mining was in progress and around thirty colliers were employed. Weaving continued to flourish making up a substantial part of the population of over 2,500 around the turn of the 19th century. (above adapted from Wikipedia)
James’s 1887 death certificate states that his father Robert was a lint miller. When James was born he was a farmer. Lint Mills prepared the fibres of flax plants for spinning into linen (called lint in Scotland). The first were built in the 1720s; in the century which followed some 700 were added.” (Source: http://thelintmill.co.uk/about-the-lint-mill/)
More information: Clydesdale Mills Society
Airdrie is a town in North Lanarkshire approximately 12 miles (19 km) east of Glasgow city centre. It is in the territory formerly known as the Monklands district. In In 1641 the parish was divided between:
- New Monkland (present-day Airdrie)
- Old Monkland (present-day Coatbridge)
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| New Monkland about 1906. Source: Scottish Mining Website |
The monks were farmers and also expert in the construction of roads. In the 12th century, they established the original Glasgow to Edinburgh road via Airdrie and Bathgate. to link up with their lands in Newbattle in East Lothian.
Airdrie really came to prominence through its weaving industry. Airdrie Weavers Society was founded in 1781 and flax (for linen) was being grown in sixteen farms in and around the burgh. In the last decade of the eighteenth century, coal mining was in progress and around thirty colliers were employed. Weaving continued to flourish making up a substantial part of the population of over 2,500 around the turn of the 19th century. (above adapted from Wikipedia)
James’s 1887 death certificate states that his father Robert was a lint miller. When James was born he was a farmer. Lint Mills prepared the fibres of flax plants for spinning into linen (called lint in Scotland). The first were built in the 1720s; in the century which followed some 700 were added.” (Source: http://thelintmill.co.uk/about-the-lint-mill/)
More information: Clydesdale Mills Society
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| Lint Mill Charford, built 1875, demolished 1966 |
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| Inverar Lint Mill. The mill wheel would have been centred on the lower right opening and would have appeared semi-submerged in a pit. A wooden channel would have brought the water from the race above the wheel. Source: Glenlyon History Society. |
Hannah’s origins
Hannah Aitken was born on 14 March 1813 in Barony, Glasgow, and baptised in Barony on 25 April 1813.
Her parents were David Aitken and Catherine Hanna - 4th great grandparents, who were married on 19 February 1809 in Glasgow.
There are three entries in the 1841 Census for a Glasgow-living David Aitkens, and it seems that the most likely is a family living in Buchanan Court in Galsgow St Peter Parish. His occupation was given as egg dealer.
David, aged 60 - born about 1781, Mrs Aitken (sadly no first name) aged 50 - born about 1791. That means they would have been about 28 and 18 at marriage. There are eight children listed: Alexr, 20; Mary 20; David 15; Janet 15; Christina 13; Elisabeth 10; William 7 and John 2. Hannah was already married to Robert Young by 1841.
Hannah Aitken was born on 14 March 1813 in Barony, Glasgow, and baptised in Barony on 25 April 1813.
Her parents were David Aitken and Catherine Hanna - 4th great grandparents, who were married on 19 February 1809 in Glasgow.
There are three entries in the 1841 Census for a Glasgow-living David Aitkens, and it seems that the most likely is a family living in Buchanan Court in Galsgow St Peter Parish. His occupation was given as egg dealer.
David, aged 60 - born about 1781, Mrs Aitken (sadly no first name) aged 50 - born about 1791. That means they would have been about 28 and 18 at marriage. There are eight children listed: Alexr, 20; Mary 20; David 15; Janet 15; Christina 13; Elisabeth 10; William 7 and John 2. Hannah was already married to Robert Young by 1841.
Sarah Young
Sarah - 2nd great grandmother - was born in Barony, Glasgow, the same location her parents were married.
Sarah - 2nd great grandmother - was born in Barony, Glasgow, the same location her parents were married.
Today Barony parish has been absorbed into the city of Glasgow. In the past it was lands to the north of the city. One reminder remains: the former church at Barony is now Barony Hall, part of the University of Strathclyde.
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| The 1798 Barony Church, pictured in 1825. Source: Wikipedia |
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| Barony Church as it is now as part of Strathclyde University |
The Old Barony Church was built as a part of the Barony Parish in Glasgow by architect James Adams. It opened in 1799 and served ceremonial and other congregational purposes. The replacement for the old building was designed by J.J. Burnet & J.A. Campbell and raised in 1889, and incorporated architectural artifacts from the old church and a number of other relics.
Sarah and her parents all came to Australia, but I cannot find a record for them. Previously one family historian has been recorded that Sarah arrived on the Cyclone on 26 March 1857. However, there were two Sarah Youngs on that journey, one aged 40 and given as the mother of the other 20 year old Sarah, and there was no James and no Hannah. It is conceivable that James arrived separately - sometimes men travelled out and then sent for their wives and children. As well, Hannah’s name could be misrecorded, in which case this could be a record of Hannah and Sarah's arrival.
Sarah was James and Hannah’s only child. She is the only child mentioned on her father’s and mother’s death certificates. James’s will provided for his wife and grandchildren.
The Youngs in Australia
Not a lot is known about the Youngs’ movements in Australia. We know the following from official records:
approx 1852 Hannah arrived (source DC) - questionable
approx 1856-7 James arrived (source: DC)
approx 1856-7 Sarah arrived (source DC)
1858 April 13 - Sarah married John Grieve, a bachelor, aged 28, at 99 Queensbury St, North Melbourne Both were residing in Elizabeth St, Melbourne at the time of their marriage. It is probable that they travelled to Melbourne for the wedding.
The officiating minister was George Reed, who had an interesting history. He arrived in Melbourne in 1857 and set up the North Melbourne Presbyterian Church. He later became a politician in Queensland, before moving to New Zealand. His latter life was spent as a newspaper leader writer and columnist in both New Zealand and Melbourne. More can be read about his here: https://teara.govt.nz/en/biographies/2r8/reed-george-mccullagh
Sarah’s usual residence at her marriage was Yan Yean, John’s Cape Shank (sic) - Cape Schanck.
Yan Yean is a rural area, about 40 kms north of the centre of Melbourne. The first post office opened there on 1 March 1859. Today it is on the rural/urban fringe of Melbourne, with encroaching development. It is the site of Victoria’s first reservoir.
“In 1850 the Melbourne City Council direted its surveyor, James Blackburn, to investigate an improved supply of water. He chose thePlenty River….the colonial government decided to use the natural basin, Ryder’s Swamp, east of the river for a reservoir. Upwards of 1000 people were at Yan Yean during the construction works, which were completed in 1857.” (Source: https://www.victorianplaces.com.au/yan-yean)
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| Open Forest near Yan Yean, c. 1858. Daintree, Richard 1832-1878 & Fauchery, Antoine 1823 - 1861. Silver albumen photo. State Library of Victoria |
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| Cape Schanck looking towards Pulpit Rock at Dawn. Source. |
After local Indigenous people were displaced, timber-felling, fishing, limeburning and quarrying were amongst the earliest activities carried out by white people on the Mornington Peninsula. A pastoral lease known as the Cape Schanck run was taken up in 1838 by Charles Campbell (1809-1888) from Sydney. it covered 9,600 acres. (Source)
It is possible that Sarah’s husband was a quarryman on the peninsula when they married. As Sarah’s father, James, was also recorded as a quarryman, perhaps this is how they met.
Sarah signed her marriage certificate, so she was literate; John made his Mark (X), as did James Young, witness (presumably Sarah’s father).
Between 1857 and 1878 Sarah and John Grieve had eleven children (source: Sarah’s DC):
Cause of death was given as “morbus cordis” and “icterus”. In modern terms morbus cordis means heart disease, or was used when doctors didn’t really know, but were certain it was natural causes. Icterus is also known as jaundice, an indicator of blood or liver disorders (such as cirrhosis, pernicious anemia, and hepatitis) or a sign that there is an obstruction (such as a tumor, gallstone or inflammation) blocking the bile flow from the liver. She had been ill for 7 months and was last seen by a medical practitioner on 27 October 1880.
Sarah is buried in Shepparton Cemetery.
It is possible that Sarah’s husband was a quarryman on the peninsula when they married. As Sarah’s father, James, was also recorded as a quarryman, perhaps this is how they met.
Sarah signed her marriage certificate, so she was literate; John made his Mark (X), as did James Young, witness (presumably Sarah’s father).
Between 1857 and 1878 Sarah and John Grieve had eleven children (source: Sarah’s DC):
- Hannah, born about 1860, found no record of birth.
- James, born about 1861, Malmsbury, Victoria (birth record mis-spells surname as Grive)
- Janet, born about 1863, Tallarook (birth record mis-spells surname Greeve)
- Rachel, born Tallarook, 1865
- Margaret, born Seymour, 1867
- Ellen, born Seymour, 1869
- Sarah, born Seymour, 1870 - great grandmother
- Mary, born Seymour, 1872
- John, born Seymour, 1874
- Agnes, born Arcadia, 1876
- Grace, born Kialla, 1878.
Thursday 9 October 1879 At the Shepparton and Lower Goulburn Valley Agricultural and Pastoral Society Spring Show, prizes were awarded to John and Sarah Grieve. Sarah (Mrs Grieve, Kialla) won 10s for being second in the category "Dairy Produce - Best 5 pounds fresh butter in rolls and without mark, with salt, as usually sent to market." [Reported in The Riverine Herald, Echuca, Vic Sat 11 October 1879. Sourced via Trove]. J Grieve of Kialla won first prize in the category Boar - swine. [Reported in The Leader, Mebourne, Sat 18 October 1879 p8. Sourced via Trove]
28 October 1880 - Sarah died at Kialla. She was recorded as a “farmer’s wife, meaning that John Grieve was farming at that time. She was aged 44.
Cause of death was given as “morbus cordis” and “icterus”. In modern terms morbus cordis means heart disease, or was used when doctors didn’t really know, but were certain it was natural causes. Icterus is also known as jaundice, an indicator of blood or liver disorders (such as cirrhosis, pernicious anemia, and hepatitis) or a sign that there is an obstruction (such as a tumor, gallstone or inflammation) blocking the bile flow from the liver. She had been ill for 7 months and was last seen by a medical practitioner on 27 October 1880.
Sarah is buried in Shepparton Cemetery.
10 April 1887 - James Young died age 75 at Kialla, where he was a farmer and land-owner (see Will below). He had had heart disease for several years and was last seen by a doctor in December 1886. James is buried in Shepparton Cemetery.
31 August 1894 - Hannah Young died aged 78, at Kialla. Causes of death were given as old age, fatty heart and general decay. She had been last seen by a medical practiotioner on 23 August 1894. She was buried on 1 September at Shepparton Cemetery.
Summary of James Young’s Will:
The Will of James Young late of Kialla West in the Colony of Victoria Farmer deceased
[The whole will is saved via Ancestry]
James Young died on 10 April 1887 at Kialla West.
The Will is dated 22 Dec 1886.
He appointed George McNabb, John McIntyre and John Furphy as executors (Furphy subsequently renounced). It was witnessed by William Longford, Solicitor, High Street, Shepparton, Vic and his Clerk, James Long.
The executors were instructed to:
31 August 1894 - Hannah Young died aged 78, at Kialla. Causes of death were given as old age, fatty heart and general decay. She had been last seen by a medical practiotioner on 23 August 1894. She was buried on 1 September at Shepparton Cemetery.
Summary of James Young’s Will:
The Will of James Young late of Kialla West in the Colony of Victoria Farmer deceased
[The whole will is saved via Ancestry]
James Young died on 10 April 1887 at Kialla West.
The Will is dated 22 Dec 1886.
He appointed George McNabb, John McIntyre and John Furphy as executors (Furphy subsequently renounced). It was witnessed by William Longford, Solicitor, High Street, Shepparton, Vic and his Clerk, James Long.
The executors were instructed to:
“…permit and suffer my wife Hannah Young during her life to use occupy and enjoy my farm and lands consisting of about three hundred and fifty acres situate in Kialla West . . . and the stock and implements thereon for the support and benefit of herself and the children of my deceased Daughter Sarah Grieve by her husband John Grieve. And after the death of my said wife then I direct my said Trustees…to sell all such stock implements and other chattels as may then be remaining …and land and invest the proceeds arising from such sale in manner hereinafter directed. And shall hold the said lands in trust for all the children or any the child of…Sarah Grieve who being Sons or a Son shall attain the age of twenty one years or being Daughters or a Daughter shall attain that age or marry.
“…immediatly on the death of my wife …let the said land for the best rent obtainable and invest the moneys so arising …until the youngest of the said chldren who being alive have attained the age of twenty one or has married. And then forthwith to sell the said land and divide the proceeds among the children share and share alike.
“I direct my said Trustees to invest all monies of which I shall be possessed at my death and all other monies which shall come to their hands under the provisions of this my will in Government or Real securities or in Bank or Insurance Shares in the Colony of Victoria…(and hold the proceeds under he same provisions). But I give my Trustees power to raise any portion of such moneys as they ay see fit for the benefit of any of the said children during their respective minorities. “Kialla is a rural locality of the City of Greater Shepparton in the Goulburn Valley, Victoria. It includes the areas known as Kialla Central, Kialla West, Kialla Green and Kialla Lakes.
The Indigenous people of the area are the Yorta Yorta.
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